I did my first oil change on the Corvette

"Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies" (jordanwphillips) 07/03/2020 at 18:12 • Filed to: None

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The past two changes I had a shop do. The next changes I will have a shop do. It’s far too much trouble to save a few bucks.

PyroHoltz f@h Oppo 261120 > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 07/03/2020 at 18:22

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I’ve never seen wheel stands like that. Did you build those Jenga towers?

jeepoftheseus > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 07/03/2020 at 18:24

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I see you 13’ Boston Whaler. My pops has one in a similar state of restoration. Fun boats!

Dr_Watson > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 07/03/2020 at 18:30

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Yeah I feel you. I did my own oil for ever. But on the TT RS you’ve got to take off so much underbody stuff to get at the drain it’s a phenomenal pain in the ass. So after doing it once I’ve resigned to letting the shop do it (not an instant oil  change place mind you... A german car speed shop I like ).

Tareim - V8 powered > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 07/03/2020 at 18:31

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gib car now pls

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > PyroHoltz f@h Oppo 261120 07/03/2020 at 18:31

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They are called cribs, and they are nailed together and quite solid. Held my Dad's Lexus for many days. 

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Dr_Watson 07/03/2020 at 18:32

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If it’s a top filter like a lot of other VAG products, you can buy a top oil change kit, and never have to get under the car. 

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 07/03/2020 at 18:33

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I’m very confused as to why you have the entire vehicle raised like that. Is it because it’s supposed to be level when draining the oil? Too  low to use ramps?

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > jeepoftheseus 07/03/2020 at 18:33

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It’s my Dad’s. It came with a bonus layer of fiberglass, that decided to shed itself in the water one day a while ago. So it’s getting pretty much completely redone. 

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 07/03/2020 at 18:33

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1. Needs to be level.

2. Too low for ramps. 

VincentMalamute-Kim > Dr_Watson 07/03/2020 at 18:36

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I left off the underbody tray on my S4.

shop-teacher > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 07/03/2020 at 18:36

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Yeah, that does look like a gigantic PITA. I'd let a good shop do that one too.

BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 07/03/2020 at 18:38

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Can’t use a vacuum?

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 07/03/2020 at 18:38

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1. Darn

2. Dang

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind 07/03/2020 at 18:39

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Bottom filter. 

Dr_Watson > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 07/03/2020 at 18:40

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I have contemplated that. But I think taking it to the shop once a year isn't too bad. That way they can also give everything a good look to reassure me it's safe to do autox and track days. 

BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 07/03/2020 at 18:40

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GM’s engineers obviously hated their customers  that sucks, I don’t blame you for just wanting to take it somewhere. I could hold a dinner party underneath the Land Rover and still the filter is on the top. 

ITA97, now with more Jag @ opposite-lock.com > Dr_Watson 07/03/2020 at 18:41

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My Jag XE reveals that JLR spent some time studying ze  Germans. An oil change involves removing 22 fasteners to access the drain plug.

jeepoftheseus > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 07/03/2020 at 18:41

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Yeah that’ll cause it to go to project status for sure. Ours was an S.C. DNR boat for most of its life so it needed some love. They did slap a 48 on it which was slightly scary.  I liked it because it was the only dark grey/green Whaler around but Dad has plans to go back to the classic white with blue interior. 3/4 ton GMT800 as well? I feel like our dads could share a cold one pretty easily. 

Verdog ~ manual Bro, Bro - HellHawk Equipped > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 07/03/2020 at 18:46

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‘Hey Honey, I need this lift thingy.  Its not that big, ACTUALLY... We can put the boat under the lift and you can park the ‘burb under the carport.’

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > jeepoftheseus 07/03/2020 at 18:49

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Yep, 8.1, but he doesn’t drink. 

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind 07/03/2020 at 18:49

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I’ll take that over German engineering, 100% of the time. 

jeepoftheseus > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 07/03/2020 at 18:54

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That’s a beast. Share some updates as the Whaler project proceeds if you’re local to him and he doesn’t mind . I love a good boat resto. Dad got sidetracked last winter by a 15’ that he has since fallen in love with  so my goal is to talk him out of the 13’ in its current disassembled state to clear up some shop space for him. 

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > jeepoftheseus 07/03/2020 at 18:57

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He’s a missionary and stuck at home at the moment, so it’s  been keeping him busy. 

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > shop-teacher 07/03/2020 at 18:59

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If I lost weight, I could get away with jack stands. I actually can now, but it’s a bit close. The cribs plus have to jack up another jack to get the big jack under to lift it level is the biggest pain. 

The Snowman > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 07/03/2020 at 19:39

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Make some 2x10" inch ramps that are long enough you only go up two inches every foot or 8" you should be able to get 4" that way and then only need one jack.

Urambo Tauro > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 07/03/2020 at 19:52

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Step 1:

Step 2: Change oil

Step 3: ????

Step 4: PROFIT!!!

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Urambo Tauro 07/03/2020 at 19:56

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No.

BaconSandwich is tasty. > ITA97, now with more Jag @ opposite-lock.com 07/03/2020 at 19:56

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Yikes. Makes me wonder what wonders a  hole saw and a Fumitomo valve could do...

benn454 > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 07/03/2020 at 20:08

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 Lol we don't even do these at the dealership unless one of the 4-posts is open. They're too low to make it over the lip of the oil pits. You have my condolences. 

Snuze: Needs another Swede > The Snowman 07/03/2020 at 20:59

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You, sir, are a scholar and a gentleman and just saved me a lot of heartache for when I’m going to have to work on this lowboi.

Shoop > The Snowman 07/03/2020 at 21:01

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Why that design? Get 6 x 6" x 1" x 8' cut them on a diagonal, stack them, run 2 big lag bolts through each. 2 ramps ez. 

The Snowman > Shoop 07/03/2020 at 21:17

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I would want the ramps as wide as my tires but this would work fine.

Shift24 > Urambo Tauro 07/03/2020 at 21:19

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That is really painful to look at...

Shift24 > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 07/03/2020 at 21:32

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Curious why does it need to be level? Is Vette oil pans that different?

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Shift24 07/03/2020 at 21:35

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A little, plus the drain is on the front, so I technically it’s supposed to be tilted slightly forward. 

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Tareim - V8 powered 07/03/2020 at 21:42

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Nah. I’d still rather work on it than my 4Runner. 

Danny Korecki > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 07/03/2020 at 22:13

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I like the ingenuity , but is there some reason you couldn’t just roll up on some Race Ramps (or Walmart equivalent ) pop the bolt and let the oil drain?

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Danny Korecki 07/03/2020 at 22:39

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The drain  bolt is at the front of the pan, and the car has to be level, so the back of the car has to be up anyway. These are a lot sturdier(or at least they lock in place better) than jack stands, plus they sit a lot higher. It’s a bit of a pain to get the car up, but there is around 2 feet of room under the car, instead of maybe 1.  

zipfuel > Danny Korecki 07/03/2020 at 22:44

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He’d probably have to buy some pretty special ones. I tried to get some cheap used ramps a while back and they were too steep to clear the bumper, on a stock Jetta!

zipfuel > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 07/03/2020 at 23:04

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Some solid Jenga skills you got there

gmporschenut also a fan of hondas > The Snowman 07/04/2020 at 00:09

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I just made a pair for the Honda. Need to belt  sand the angled bits a little more. 

gmporschenut also a fan of hondas > Shoop 07/04/2020 at 00:13

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I would guess because then you’re relying on the lag bolts vs the stacked style being held by gravity ( and some screws/nails)

Thisismydisplayname > Snuze: Needs another Swede 07/04/2020 at 01:24

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I’ve got a set of race ramps with the long ramp and they worked for my ‘87 Vette and work great for my truck and other cars.  And the ramp section is removable for better access.  But on a budget, the 2x10 setup would work.  

Thisismydisplayname > BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind 07/04/2020 at 01:27

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Good point, and even with the bottom filter it could might be easier. I use the extractor for my wife’s Pacifica and my S8 all the time, but yeah top filters make it make more sense too.  

Danny Korecki > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 07/04/2020 at 01:35

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thanks for responding.

front of the pan is annoying and sounds like they never thought about maintenance back in the day . I meant more for you drive on a ramp at like a slight incline, rip the e-brake and it doesnt move, you slide under and pop the bolt.

Danny Korecki > zipfuel 07/04/2020 at 01:37

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I have some Race Ramps, so I cannot confirm on the cheapest options, but from the looks Walmart Rhino Ramps can compare on the angle. I am able to drive on the ramps with no scrape with my M3 which has the Competition Package which makes it 10 m m lower than stock.

benn454 > Dr_Watson 07/04/2020 at 08:35

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Fords and Mazdas are the worst I’ve personally encountered about underbody trays. Get under a Fusion or 6, and it’s all plastic from the front bumper to the muffler. So annoying.

benn454 > Danny Korecki 07/04/2020 at 08:39

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GM still doesn’t think about us lowly techs. Nothing’s changed.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Danny Korecki 07/04/2020 at 08:44

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LS’s don’t like lateral g’s, so the pan was designed accordingly. There was some logic to it, it didn’t work too well, but they did think about it. The C6 answered this problem by going dry sump.

3 Jeeps and a Mazda wants a Fiata > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 07/04/2020 at 10:08

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I us ed race ramps to pull my transmission. If i dont need to use jack stands I never will again.

Dr_Watson > benn454 07/04/2020 at 14:17

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Hmm. The NC2 mx5 I had before this had a nice trap door in the underbody that gave access to the drain and filter. Was pretty thoughtful on mazdas part.

benn454 > Dr_Watson 07/04/2020 at 15:14

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 Haven't had to do a Miata yet. So I can't speak to that. The Japanese are more likely to have a door or hole cut into the tray to drain through though. Ford is all, "LOLOLOL hope you like having 3 different types of fasteners to take off our card table sized tray just so you can get to the drain plug, asshole!"

Shift24 > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 07/04/2020 at 16:37

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Ok yeah definitely different. Guess I never paid attention 

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > benn454 07/05/2020 at 20:59

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Bruh, there isn’t an undertray and techs use a lift. If you have a lift, it takes 5 minutes . They thought of the techs, they didn’t think of DIYers.

benn454 > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 07/06/2020 at 13:27

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There isn’t an undertray on the Corvette , no. But they’re on almost everything else though , even if they’re not quite as bad as Ford abou t it yet.

The worst offenders are last gen 4.3 Silverados which give you a laughably tiny cutout that only serves to make a huge mess, and the Spark , which has an idiotic little flap directly under the filter whose only purpose is to spread oil EVERYWHERE.